He was always sort of a scrappy little kid wasn't he? A bit of a fighter?

All three networks have always had a morning show but now cable of course is taking some of that audience away and a variety of other things, probably the Internet as well.

But of course when people watch morning television, Terry, it's a very different animal. You know, they're running around, they're getting their kids ready for school, they're probably doing eight million things, they're brushing their teeth.

I beg. I call. I badger. I cajole. Part of the secret is everyone has fun and that's really motivating.

I've always tried to stay true to my authentic self.